The Things EDH Players Get Wrong about Interaction

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## Summary

Argues interaction should be viewed as a network of overlapping solutions to specific gamestates, not a checklist by card type. Graveyard exile, bounce, defensive/stax cards (Propaganda, Ghostly Prison), protection, and land destruction all count as removal. Example: an Animate Dead reanimating Archon of Cruelty can be answered by creature removal, enchantment removal, a counterspell, or instant graveyard hate (Cremate counts; Abrade doesn't). A Krenko board can be handled with removal, lifegain, Ghostly Prison, Thalia Heretic Cathar, or Rakdos Charm. No fixed removal count exists; counts range from the teens to 30+. Life-total pressure lets aggro/Voltron decks run less removal; Magister Sphinx serves this role in his Sharuum Slide deck. Flame Slash is weak in slow decks. Beast Within and Chaos Warp are strong as hard removal in colors lacking it; Generous Gift is nearly identical to Beast Within and less needed in decks with other answers. Narrow suites (8-12) favor flexible staples. Cheap 0-2 mana removal (Swords to Plowshares) is mana-efficient but card-disadvantageous. High-cost counterspells (Aethersnatch, Sublime Epiphany, Time Stop) work in draw-go decks (Lilah Undefeated Slickshot) or with Treasures; modal options include Mystic Confluence and Three Steps Ahead.

## Key Clips

- **[00:47]** The best way to think about interaction is as a network of overlapping solutions to a number of specific gamestates, rather than a checklist of card types.
- **[01:52]** In EDH, problems are often more complicated than one single problem permanent that needs removed. Single-target removal and generic board wipes solve a lot, but graveyard exile, stax, and defensive permanents are often cheaper per mana and hinder multiple opposing plays.
- **[04:11]** Move away from deciding card counts by simple template. Removal types overlap in what they answer, so some decks run interaction in the teens while others run 20- or 30-something interactive cards.
- **[05:27]** Higher life-total pressure allows a smaller removal count — late-game permanents worth removing become less of a concern if their controller can be rapidly focused down. Most pertinent in aggro and Voltron decks.
- **[07:17]** Different decks use removal for different purposes: aggro clears blockers and avoids board wipes; combo spends removal only on imminent obstacles; controlling decks knock out resource engines like card draw and favor multi-target interaction.
- **[09:02]** Beast Within and Chaos Warp are exceptional because they are hard removal in colors that lack it — Chaos Warp also covers enchantments in a color without enchantment removal. Generous Gift is functionally identical to Beast Within but less prioritized.
- **[10:41]** With a narrow interaction suite of 8-12 cards, flexible removal has huge utility. Running 9 pieces you've seen about 1.25 by turn seven; at 18 pieces more than 2.5 — lower counts favor running versatile staples.
- **[11:49]** Holding up mana for instant-speed interaction has an effective mana cost since unused mana goes unspent, which is why cheap kill spells and low-cost counterspells are prioritized — but 3-5 mana counterspells aren't inherently bad if you have other things to do with held-up mana, as in a draw-go deck using treasures or modal counters like Mystic Confluence and Three Steps Ahead.

## Tags

**Archetypes/Strategy:** control, value-engine, voltron
**Format/Bracket:** Optimized, cEDH
**Card Categories:** removal, counter, protection, recursion, board-wipe
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Source video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2k8XJ_jGKc&list=UUOYkwObFKjxko7oj56gVDag

Summary

Argues interaction should be viewed as a network of overlapping solutions to specific gamestates, not a checklist by card type. Graveyard exile, bounce, defensive/stax cards (Propaganda, Ghostly Prison), protection, and land destruction all count as removal. Example: an Animate Dead reanimating Archon of Cruelty can be answered by creature removal, enchantment removal, a counterspell, or instant graveyard hate (Cremate counts; Abrade doesn't). A Krenko board can be handled with removal, lifegain, Ghostly Prison, Thalia Heretic Cathar, or Rakdos Charm. No fixed removal count exists; counts range from the teens to 30+. Life-total pressure lets aggro/Voltron decks run less removal; Magister Sphinx serves this role in his Sharuum Slide deck. Flame Slash is weak in slow decks. Beast Within and Chaos Warp are strong as hard removal in colors lacking it; Generous Gift is nearly identical to Beast Within and less needed in decks with other answers. Narrow suites (8-12) favor flexible staples. Cheap 0-2 mana removal (Swords to Plowshares) is mana-efficient but card-disadvantageous. High-cost counterspells (Aethersnatch, Sublime Epiphany, Time Stop) work in draw-go decks (Lilah Undefeated Slickshot) or with Treasures; modal options include Mystic Confluence and Three Steps Ahead.

Key Clips

[00:47] The best way to think about interaction is as a network of overlapping solutions to a number of specific gamestates, rather than a checklist of card types.
[01:52] In EDH, problems are often more complicated than one single problem permanent that needs removed. Single-target removal and generic board wipes solve a lot, but graveyard exile, stax, and defensive permanents are often cheaper per mana and hinder multiple opposing plays.
[04:11] Move away from deciding card counts by simple template. Removal types overlap in what they answer, so some decks run interaction in the teens while others run 20- or 30-something interactive cards.
[05:27] Higher life-total pressure allows a smaller removal count — late-game permanents worth removing become less of a concern if their controller can be rapidly focused down. Most pertinent in aggro and Voltron decks.
[07:17] Different decks use removal for different purposes: aggro clears blockers and avoids board wipes; combo spends removal only on imminent obstacles; controlling decks knock out resource engines like card draw and favor multi-target interaction.
[09:02] Beast Within and Chaos Warp are exceptional because they are hard removal in colors that lack it — Chaos Warp also covers enchantments in a color without enchantment removal. Generous Gift is functionally identical to Beast Within but less prioritized.
[10:41] With a narrow interaction suite of 8-12 cards, flexible removal has huge utility. Running 9 pieces you've seen about 1.25 by turn seven; at 18 pieces more than 2.5 — lower counts favor running versatile staples.
[11:49] Holding up mana for instant-speed interaction has an effective mana cost since unused mana goes unspent, which is why cheap kill spells and low-cost counterspells are prioritized — but 3-5 mana counterspells aren't inherently bad if you have other things to do with held-up mana, as in a draw-go deck using treasures or modal counters like Mystic Confluence and Three Steps Ahead.